Why we removed Roar Mode from FUN60?

You may have heard about the concept of “Roar Mode” when we release our first HE keyboard, the MonsGeek M1W HE.

And yet this feature is removed from FUN60. And we will explain why.

Roar Mode is essentially a Turbo mode that is designed to optimize your keyboard’s responsiveness by BOOSTING the scan rate of selected 4 keys at a cost of other keys.

Note here we talk about scan rate NOT polling rate. The polling rate of the keyboard is fixed for 8K on all keys and cannot be adjusted, regardless of whether you turned on Roar mode or not.

And the latency of the keyboard is closely relevant to both concepts.

By boosting the scan rate, Roar Mode improves the latency of the 4 fixed keys, providing a more immediate reaction during gaming or intensive typing sessions. They were often set to WASD.

For example, on the M1W V3 HE Magnetic Switch Keyboard, Roar Mode can be applied to keys like WASD, with each key automatically boosting its scan rate to 10K. This enhancement would be beneficial for gaming and according to our user feedback, is quite noticeable on the 4 selected keys.

The good thing is. It helps gaming. But the bad thing is, it is only limited to 4 keys.  And yet the responsiveness of other keys will be slower than non-Roar mode. You may not even notice the responsiveness of keys during regular typing events, but in competitive gaming, maybe you need more than 4 keys? 

It would be ideal if the ROAR MODE can be extended to more keys. 

And here comes the “Dynamic Roar Mode” concept on FUN60.

With its new ARM chip and updated algorithm, the FUN60 Series introduces Dynamic Roar Mode, which automatically boosts the performance of the last 8 keys you press (with the latest firmware upgrade) at a 16K scan rate. The last 8 keys are memorized by the device and will maintain at the boosted scan rate. 

The algorithm uses a maximum boost ratio of 1:2, applied on top of the keyboard’s universal scan rate of 8K for the FUN60.

This configuration has been optimized for gaming, providing the capability to maintain turbo status for up to 8 keys simultaneously.

While it’s true that other keys will experience a relatively slower scan rate, this adjustment is designed to be imperceptible during regular typing, even in scenarios where more than 8 keys are used frequently. 

In competitive gaming, however, most scenarios require repetitive use of up to 6 keys. This is where the Dynamic Roar Mode truly shines, ensuring faster response times and improved control.

Theoretically MonsGeek/Akko team has the technical capability to further enhance the dynamic scan rate (e.g., 32K, 48K, or higher) for a few selected keys. However, implementing such changes would:

• Significantly increase power consumption in wireless mode.

• Further sacrifice other keys during typing events so that the lags become noticeable, resulting in bad experiences. 

As a result, we decided not to pursue this option.

The keyboard also features a 32K sampling rate, which is vital for achieving 0.01mm precision. This precision requires processing large amounts of data to ensure accurate input. However, it is important to note that the 32K sampling rate does not play a significant role in reducing latency and should not be confused with the scan rate.

Additional Note

Please be aware that MonsGeek does NOT have a 32K scan rate (either in dynamic or universal). Please avoid directly translating content from flyers in our Tmall store, as language barriers may cause confusion or misinterpretation. 扫描采样率 = Sampling Rate NOT scan rate. 

MagMech: Switch between Magnetic Switches and Mechanical Switches Freely

If you’ve been following our FUN60 Series keyboards, you’ve likely noticed MagMech—a distinctive feature exclusive to our FUN60 Ultra TMR Version magnetic switch keyboards. But what exactly does MagMech mean, and what benefits does it bring?

MagMech stands for Magnetic + Mechanical, and it refers to a keyboard that is compatible with both Magnetic and Mechanical switches. Some of you may have already experienced customization options on the MonsGeek M1 HE Wired or MOD007 Hall Effect Keyboard. However, these were limited to 3-pin mechanical switches only.

Now, with the NEW FUN60 Ultra TMR Keyboard, we bring you the ultimate customization experience. This Aluminum Magnetic Switch Keyboard not only supports 3-pin switches but also ANY 5-pin mechanical switches, offering you greater flexibility.

*Note：OUTEMU Half-height Switches are not supported

Imagining having only WASD / Arrow keys swapped for magnetic switches, and leave the rest for mechanical for a classic mechanical typing experience. What a dream!

What’s more, the FUN60 Ultra TMR offers a wireless version, which offers strong flexibility to manage multiple devices at the same time.

*Sound test of Green Fog Mechanical Switches on the FUN60 Ultra TMR version.

TMR vs. Hall Effect: Applications in Magnetic Switch Keyboards Explained

📅Dec 25 2024

That’s exactly why TMR is integrated into magnetic switches keyboards: 1) to boost the precision, and 2) to ensure enhanced reliability for wireless gaming.

Let’s dive into the details!

TMR stands for tunnel magnetoresistance. The Hall Effect and Tunneling Magnetoresistance (TMR) are both phenomena used in sensing technologies, especially in the context of switches, such as magnetic switches used in mechanical keyboards, but they operate on different principles. The purposes of having them are to boost the actuation without having to physically touch the switches.

Source from cotorelay.com

TMR is a quantum mechanical phenomenon that occurs when electrons “tunnel” through a thin insulating barrier between two ferromagnetic materials. The resistance of the material changes depending on the relative alignment of the magnetization of the two ferromagnetic layers.

A summary between TMR and Hall Effect goes into this:

Overall, TMR offers more potential for advancing the gaming. And because it is more stable under varying conditions, it is considered to be ideal for competitive gaming in wireless conditions. It would be super cool to achieve the equivalent level of latency in wireless as in wired connection. 

In 3rd party precision tests of FUN60 series, it does show that the Ultra TMR version is relatively more precise than other hall effect versions. And it is thus more expensive as well.

We would recommend the FUN60 Ultra TMR version for those seeking ultimate build quality, aiming for the MagMech feature (ensuring compatibility with mechanical switches) and also smooth experience in wireless gaming.

FUN60 Ultra TMR Keyboard

References*

[1] How to Replace a Hall Effect Sensor with a TMR Sensor

[2] THE EVOLUTION OF MAGNETIC SENSING TECHNOLOGY: FROM HALL EFFECT TO TUNNELING MAGNETORESISTANCE (TMR)

Is 0.01mm precision a SCAM for magnetic switches keyboard?

When you first see a keyboard advertised as having a 0.01mm precision, you may ask immediately…..

“How did you achieve this?” And is this a scam?

As of today, 0.01mm precision hall effect keyboard has been comprehensively tested on Bilibili by Chinese keyboard/technology enthusiasts using different equipment. The 0.01mm precision is built in FW and chip but users would always want to validate by themselves. 

To verify that, most people would purchase a force gauge tester/load tester in 0.001mm magnitude which costs from $1500 (used) to as high as $15000 or more. There isn’t a limitation of the equipment but a force gauge tester would be a reliable “ready to go” machine. If you can manage to have a DIY machine that can have an incremental movement of 0.001mm and effectively record and measure such discrepency changes, then it would work as well. 

Note when we were testing for 0.1mm precision keyboard, a 0.01mm magnitude force gauge can be used used. And the below gauge from Hong Feng is the most popular one among all for testing the actual actuation point and release point. This digital gauge costs around $200 and is fairly accessible. 

However, when it comes down to a 0.01mm precision, devices that can only measure at a magnitude of 0.01mm will be too rough to provide an accurate measurement. The needle or pressing unit of the gauge or machine that attaches to the keyboard must be able to move in increments of 0.001mm with minimal force. Apparently, the precision test would NOT work if the gauge tester requires you to directly move the needle by human hands (which can hardly control at even 0.1mm precision) or with bigger displacement movement of needle that is larger than 0.01mm.

Therefore, here is the load tester machine that was most commonly used by influencers:

The keyboard will be connected to the computer physically as usual. For example, if you are testing the accuracy of release point, please control the gauge to gradually move the pressing needle so that the keyboard will be pressed at the actuation point. You can set this point as 0. Then you can gradually release the load tester needle in 0.001mm increments to determine at which actuation point (in mm) the keyboard stops input and resets. 

The same method can be used to test the initial actuation at 0.1mm and the deadzone.

Below are several tests by different influencers with sources:

in外设 seems to be using 3D printer (based on the Fluidd UI for Klipper) to control movement? It is a very creative way of validating the precision. 

AIKOH 1305VC is the equipment being used by this influencer for the test as he previously disclosed the equipment in his first 0.01mm precision test video. 

From those results, we can see the keyboard generally has better precision in actuation in wired mode.

Different machines may generate slightly different results. In this case, it is crucial to check the horizontal comparison of same machine across different keyboards (the source of the videos are disclosed, you can check if you have interests… not okay for us to talk about keebs from other brands) and even different switches can produce varying values.

We will be gradually updating the test results from new sources.

Overall most results tend to be close. 0.01mm precision is not a joke though in certain scenarios you may get 0.02mm based on the equipment and the testing environment. 0.01mm is VERY sensitive. 

We have our own test for 0.01mm precision ready but we requested dev team to film the testing process soon. We would rather not post a non-3rd party graph for objectivity purposes.

It is important to note that tests are always tests. And next goes, how can we take advantage of 0.01mm precision? What is the best setting for my keyboard that can achieve high precision in competivie gaming? We will post separately.

We hope this series of articles could help you better understand FUN60 and the technology behind. 

📅Dec 17 2024

At MonsGeek, we believe in being upfront with our customers about our products and the challenges we face during development.

The FUN60 Magnetic Switch Keyboard, as a budget-friendly option, delivers great value within its price range. Although we’ve put considerable effort into enhancing the performance of its stabilizers after extensive testing, there is still room for further improvement.

Why Don’t the Sound Profile of the FUN60 Series Perform as Well as Other MonsGeek Fully Assembled Models?

Due to the thinner ABS cases and the light actuation force of magnetic switches, we found it challenging to fine-tune the stabilizers in the FUN60 Pro/Max versions of the FUN60 to meet our ideal standards. Despite applying factory lubrication and even swapping out springs in the magnetic switches to make them heavier, some limitations persist.

We think it’s crucial to be transparent about this.

What We’re Developing and How Users Can Enhance the Typing Experience?

✔ Screw-in Stabilizer in Consideration

Screw-in stabilizers may be helpful sound-wise and we are actively looking at this option as long as:

• It doesn’t cause interference with the existing case and TMR sensors
• The precision of 0.01mm remain solid on the PCB.

Based on the current data, thicker switch pad would also affect the accuracy of actuation. Hence we need to be super careful on this comparing to the time when we deal with 0.1mm precision. And we will continue to see if screw-in stabilizers are possible on FUN60.

*Akko Screw-in Stabilizers

✔ Users can try using case foam or a mousepad for enhanced performance.

• For keyboard enthusiasts or community members looking to enhance their typing experience, we recommend adding a heavy silicone case foam to increase the keyboard’s weight.
• Additionally, using a mousepad on your desk can help improve the sound profile.

✔ What We Strive to Share and Do Better?

The FUN60 Pro version will start at $29.99, and we hope to deliver its full value at this price point.

For the Ultra version, made from CNC aluminum and supporting certain mechanical switch options, we’ll fine-tune the stabilizers to the best of our ability and enhance the magnetic switches for greater stability and reliability.

Thank you for your understanding and support.

All upcoming models in the FUN60 Series—Pro, Max, and Ultra—come with Akko Glare magnetic switches and offer key features such as a universal 8K polling rate, Custom Actuation, Mod-Tap, Toggle Key, Dynamic Keystroke, Key Remapping, Customizable RGB, and SOCD. The main differences lie in multi-mode or mechanical switch support, TMR or Hall Effect sensors, and keycap options.

What’s the difference among FUN60 Series? The chart below highlights the key differences in the FUN60 series for a quick guide

Basically, there are a few rule of thumbs:

• All models have 8K Polling Rate in Wired Mode (except for basic 1K FUN60, which isn’t offered in global store)
• MAX/ULTRA version has 8K Polling Rate even in Wireless 2.4G Mode
• ULTRA version also comes with ALUMINUM cases
• ULTRA version has a TMR sensor variant that offers an additional feature called MagMech (compatible with both listed magnetic and any 5-pin mechanical switches)

How to choose among them?

✔For Basic Elementary, choose the FUN60 Pro (USB-C Wired/Multi-mode), priced at just $29.99 and $34.99

✔ For Wireless Gamers, go for the FUN60 Max Multi-mode, priced at $39.99 and $49.99

✔ For those who need an Aluminum Keyboard but only want Magnetic Switches, opt for the FUN60 Ultra SP with Hall Effect Sensor(USB-C Wired/Multi-mode), priced at $59.99 and $69.99

✔ If Aluminum is a must, and compatibility with mechanical switches is desired, select the FUN60 Ultra with TMR Sensor(USB-C Wired/Multi-mode), priced at $79.99 and $89.99

📅Dec 13 2024